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Author: | GregG [ Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:32 pm ] |
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I've never worked with Abalone and am planning to put in an Abalone rosette on my next guitar, was wondering if there were any archived threads available to help in this area. I searched but could not find any, but I know there has got to be a pictorial available here somewhere. Anyway, I was going to buy a precut/shaped rosette from a provider listed here before, so I really am looking for direction relative to cutting/joining the pieces in the rosette and glueing thoughts.Appreciate any help! Greg |
Author: | Anthony Z [ Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:01 am ] |
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Greg, not sure if this is what you are looking for, this archived thread shows a huge number of examples rosettes I did a search on rosettes in the topic subject. |
Author: | Serge Poirier [ Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:18 am ] |
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Thanks Anthony, i had fun looking at this thread again, good for inspiration! ![]() Brock had a tutorial on abalone me thinks! |
Author: | Andy Zimmerman [ Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:03 am ] |
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I buy abalone rosettes from Andy DePaule. Most are 4.92" internal diameter. He as several widths. Just route as you would any other rosette. Miter the ends of each piece so they fit together. I typically set everything in dry and then flood with superglue. Then run through my thickness sander to clean up. (IMPORTANT - I coat my rosette channel and at least 2-3 inches on either side with a vinyl sealer to prevent staining the top with superglue....lacquer would also work) ![]() |
Author: | Andy Zimmerman [ Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:12 am ] |
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Greg Here are some other picts I found. When I route my channel, I use a dremmel with the stewmac attachment. I first route out the width of the abalone. Then I route out wider for the purfling until a tight fit. I work slowly and work my way wider both inside and outside to get a tight fit. My purfling strips are not bound together. I just work in all 3 on the outside and inside. I go back and forth a lot. You can see how each piece comes. Just miter to fit together. BTW I don't use ablam. I use real shell. It allows me to have a bit more play with the thickness. With ablam you must route flush, so when you sand you don't delaminate |
Author: | Lillian F-W [ Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:28 am ] |
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Andy, did you inlay the paw prints into the top? |
Author: | GregG [ Sat Sep 30, 2006 5:49 am ] |
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Thanks guys...what do you use to miter/cut the abalone, and when you say miter cut are you just referrring to a straight chop-cut on the abalone so they just butt up against one another squarely. Can you use shellac to coat the channel and top to prevent staining? Will the superglue stick to it in the channel? Thanks, Greg |
Author: | peterm [ Sat Sep 30, 2006 5:58 am ] |
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You can see it here too: Rosette inlay |
Author: | Andy Zimmerman [ Sat Sep 30, 2006 6:01 am ] |
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Greg I miter with a bit of an angle. Not just a 90 degree butt. To do it I use my upright belt sander. Lillian As far as the dog prints, they are inlayed pieces of Koa left over from the sides. |
Author: | Serge Poirier [ Sat Sep 30, 2006 7:39 am ] |
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Peter, i love the format of your website, thanks for sharing bro! |
Author: | James Orr [ Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:20 am ] |
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Peter, that little mitering jig you have is really clever. |
Author: | GregG [ Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:11 am ] |
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Peter, I too like your jig! By the way is that a little sandpaper stick you are using to miter the edges? Greg |
Author: | peterm [ Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:15 pm ] |
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Yup, run the stick on sandpaper on a flat piece of plywood to get the shell to match the angle on the jig. Works perfect every time! ![]() |
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